user11144: Base: Queen first, lose (or draw) later

What is the most economical pawn endgame position where Black queens first but White draws, White pawns no higher than 4th rank on time of Black queening?


user14079: Edit: Saving two pawns for an optimal solution
Black queens first but cannot win, no white pawn higher than the 4th rank, 1+1 pawns :
[FEN "8/8/8/6k1/8/7K/6pP/8 w - - 0 1"]

1...g1Q is stalemate and any other move draws as well
Funnily it is also possible with 0+2 pawns:
[FEN "8/8/8/6k1/8/6pK/6p1/8 w - - 0 1"]

1...g1Q/R stalemate
1...g1N/B 2.Kxg3=
1...Kf4 2.Kxg2=

Previous answer
An attempt with 2 pawns each:
[FEN "k7/8/8/7p/7P/7K/6pP/8 w - - 0 1"]

1...g1Q is an immediate stalemate. Other Black moves wouldn't win either:
1...Kb7 2.Kxg2=
1...g1R stalemate
1...g1B 2.Kg3 and the Ph5 will be captured
1...g1N 2.Kg2 Ne2 3.Kf3 Nd4 4.Kf4 and White is better !

11144: <p>Base: <a href="https://chess.stackexchange.com/questions/40655/queen-first-lose-or-draw-later">Queen first, lose (or draw) later</a></p>
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<li>What is the most economical pawn endgame position where Black queens first but White draws, White pawns no higher than 4th rank on time of Black queening?</li>
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 14079: <p><em>Edit</em>: Saving two pawns for an optimal solution</p>
<p>Black queens first but cannot win, no white pawn higher than the 4th rank, 1+1 pawns :</p>
<pre><code>[FEN &quot;8/8/8/6k1/8/7K/6pP/8 w - - 0 1&quot;]
</code></pre>
<p>1...g1Q is stalemate and any other move draws as well</p>
<p>Funnily it is also possible with 0+2 pawns:</p>
<pre><code>[FEN &quot;8/8/8/6k1/8/6pK/6p1/8 w - - 0 1&quot;]
</code></pre>
<p>1...g1Q/R stalemate</p>
<p>1...g1N/B 2.Kxg3=</p>
<p>1...Kf4 2.Kxg2=</p>
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<p><em>Previous answer</em></p>
<p>An attempt with 2 pawns each:</p>
<pre><code>[FEN &quot;k7/8/8/7p/7P/7K/6pP/8 w - - 0 1&quot;]
</code></pre>
<p>1...g1Q is an immediate stalemate. Other Black moves wouldn't win either:</p>
<p>1...Kb7 2.Kxg2=</p>
<p>1...g1R stalemate</p>
<p>1...g1B 2.Kg3 and the Ph5 will be captured</p>
<p>1...g1N 2.Kg2 Ne2 3.Kf3 Nd4 4.Kf4 and White is better !</p>
