user-1: Is there a reasonable way for me to start with 1.d4 and be able to push (without gambitting) the e-pawn to e4. I am happy to do this without playing c4 first, and also it is ok if I get this pawn exchanged with Black's d-pawn (or f-pawn) as long as I get a piece (say the knight from c3) to recapture on e4.
Basically, I want my pawn on d4 and my knight on e4.
Is there any logical move order to (almost) force this?
Why is it somehow easier to do this with e and d switched: push 1.e4, 2.Nf3, then push d4.

the reason I don’t want 1.e4 version is that I want to end up with a pawn on d4 rather than on e4.
1.d4 d5 2.Nc3 Nf6 and now I have neither c4 nor e4 pushes. I like the look of this opening but with White I get nothing or even am often worse.


user2299: I haven't played or studied it myself, but White's aim in the Colle System is to play e4 after due preparation starting with 1. d4. Quoting Wikipedia:

The Colle System, also known as the Colle-Koltanowski System, is a chess opening system for White, popularized in the 1920s by the Belgian master Edgard Colle and further developed by George Koltanowski. Quoting Wikipedia:
The Colle is characterized by several moves. White's center pawns are developed to d4 and e3, the king's knight is developed to f3, the king's bishop is developed to d3, and the queen bishop's pawn (c-pawn) is developed to c3. Common continuations include development of the queen's knight to d2 (Nbd2) and kingside castling (0-0). A major theme of the Colle System is the ambition to play a well-timed e4, where the square is defended by the bishop at d3, the knight at d2 (following Nbd2), and possibly the rook at e1 (following 0-0 and Re1). Although sometimes described as a specific sequence of moves, the Colle System is not a fixed line of play, but rather a system for White where the moves may be permuted at the player's discretion. When a game opens with most or all of the above moves, to the exclusion of moves which typify other openings, the game may be described as "a Colle System".


-1: <p>Is there a reasonable way for me to start with 1.d4 and be able to push (without gambitting) the e-pawn to e4. I am happy to do this without playing c4 first, and also it is ok if I get this pawn exchanged with Black's d-pawn (or f-pawn) as long as I get a piece (say the knight from c3) to recapture on e4.</p>
<p>Basically, I want my pawn on d4 and my knight on e4.</p>
<p><strong>Is there any logical move order to (almost) force this?</strong></p>
<p>Why is it somehow easier to do this with e and d switched: push 1.e4, 2.Nf3, then push d4.</p>
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<li>the reason I don’t want 1.e4 version is that I want to end up with a pawn on d4 rather than on e4.</li>
<li>1.d4 d5 2.Nc3 Nf6 and now I have neither c4 nor e4 pushes. I like the look of this opening but with White I get nothing or even am often worse.</li>
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 2299: <p>I haven't played or studied it myself, but White's aim in the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colle_System" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Colle System</a> is to play e4 after due preparation starting with 1. d4. Quoting Wikipedia:</p>
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<p>The <strong>Colle System</strong>, also known as the <strong>Colle-Koltanowski System</strong>, is a chess opening system for White, popularized in the 1920s by the Belgian master Edgard Colle and further developed by George Koltanowski. Quoting Wikipedia:</p>
<p>The Colle is characterized by several moves. White's center pawns are developed to d4 and e3, the king's knight is developed to f3, the king's bishop is developed to d3, and the queen bishop's pawn (c-pawn) is developed to c3. Common continuations include development of the queen's knight to d2 (Nbd2) and kingside castling (0-0). <strong>A major theme of the Colle System is the ambition to play a well-timed e4,</strong> where the square is defended by the bishop at d3, the knight at d2 (following Nbd2), and possibly the rook at e1 (following 0-0 and Re1). Although sometimes described as a specific sequence of moves, the Colle System is not a fixed line of play, but rather a system for White where the moves may be permuted at the player's discretion. When a game opens with most or all of the above moves, to the exclusion of moves which typify other openings, the game may be described as &quot;a Colle System&quot;.</p>
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