user9531: In dobutsu shogi, the usual starting position is a loss for the beginning player in (at most) 78 turns (from first move until (and including) lion capture or ascension).
But are there perhaps other (starting) positions that are farther from win/loss than the standard one? I would be most interested in positions with all (starting position) or most of the pieces on the board and on the back rank.

user16912: The standard dobutsu position gives a win for the second player. It is a well known concept of zugzwang that emerges out of forced lines.
Running Fairy Stockfish (on the pychess variants site analysis section) in the normal dobutsu backrank configuration gives a -9.8 evaluation after running it on a bigger depth.


user9531: The following starting position is a win in 123 (according to the software I am using):
1. setup S/cel/---/---/CGL/eG
1. show board
  ABC 
 +---+
1|cel| e
2|   |
3|   |
4|CGL| *G
 +---+
1. show lines
Gb4-b3 : #123  (100.00%)
G  *c3 : 0     ( 0.00%)
G  *b3 : 0     ( 0.00%)
G  *a3 : 0     ( 0.00%)
Ca4-a3 : #-102 ( 0.00%)
Lc4-c3 : #-44  ( 0.00%)
Lc4-b3 : #-44  ( 0.00%)
G  *b2 : #-20  ( 0.00%)
G  *c2 : #-16  ( 0.00%)
G  *a2 : #-16  ( 0.00%)


9531: <p>In <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C5%8Dbutsu_shogi" rel="nofollow noreferrer">dobutsu shogi</a>, the usual starting position is a loss for the beginning player in (at most) 78 turns (from first move until (and including) lion capture or ascension).</p>

<p>But are there perhaps other (starting) positions that are farther from win/loss than the standard one? I would be most interested in positions with all (starting position) or most of the pieces on the board and on the back rank.</p>
 16912: <p>The standard dobutsu position gives a win for the second player. It is a well known concept of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zugzwang#Tr%C3%A9buchet" rel="nofollow noreferrer">zugzwang</a> that emerges out of forced lines.</p>
<p>Running <a href="https://www.pychess.org/analysis/dobutsu" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Fairy Stockfish</a> (on the pychess variants site analysis section) in the normal dobutsu backrank configuration gives a -9.8 evaluation after running it on a bigger depth.</p>
<p><a href="https://i.stack.imgur.com/iSTLP.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.stack.imgur.com/iSTLP.png" alt="enter image description here" /></a></p>
 9531: <p>The following starting position is a win in 123 (according to the software I am using):</p>

<pre><code>1. setup S/cel/---/---/CGL/eG
1. show board
  ABC 
 +---+
1|cel| e
2|   |
3|   |
4|CGL| *G
 +---+
1. show lines
Gb4-b3 : #123  (100.00%)
G  *c3 : 0     ( 0.00%)
G  *b3 : 0     ( 0.00%)
G  *a3 : 0     ( 0.00%)
Ca4-a3 : #-102 ( 0.00%)
Lc4-c3 : #-44  ( 0.00%)
Lc4-b3 : #-44  ( 0.00%)
G  *b2 : #-20  ( 0.00%)
G  *c2 : #-16  ( 0.00%)
G  *a2 : #-16  ( 0.00%)
</code></pre>
