user6905: So, I played quite a bit a few years ago, at the 1500-1600 level, and now I'm getting back into things a bit.  I figured I'd use the chance to shore up my opening repertoire.
At the moment, I play 1. c4 as white and love it. I'm also pretty happy with the dragon as black vs e4.  Vs d4 though, I have issues.  I used to play the KID vs d4, but never really liked it. I like the fianchetto, but it was cramped in all the wrong ways, I never felt like I had good pawn breaks, and my minor pieces always were tripping over each other.  I like fianchetto positions in general. Before the English, I played a lot of KIA, and before the Dragon, Pirc.
So what should I look into vs d4 if I like the Dragon, and especially the English?

user4418: I would try the Gruenfeld in your position. It has the fianchetto without the cramping and has a lot of scope for someone who likes a tactical, non-symmetric counter-punching kind of game.

user6893: Just as Brian Towers I would recommend you to give a look at the Grunfeld. The main difference with the KID is that you react faster in the center with 3...d5 and the resulting positions are often more open and "enjoyable" for your g7-bishop.
Other possibilities are the Benoni: play with c5 instead of e5 (in the KID) and with Queenside pawn play. Or the Benko Gambit which can lead to attacking positions with a dominant black square bishop (but depending on white's answer, the fianchetto won't always be the best option). In any case welcome back in the chess world and I wish you the best of luck with your black Dragon (a favorite of mine too)!!

6905: <p>So, I played quite a bit a few years ago, at the 1500-1600 level, and now I'm getting back into things a bit.  I figured I'd use the chance to shore up my opening repertoire.</p>

<p>At the moment, I play 1. c4 as white and love it. I'm also pretty happy with the dragon as black vs e4.  Vs d4 though, I have issues.  I used to play the KID vs d4, but never really liked it. I like the fianchetto, but it was cramped in all the wrong ways, I never felt like I had good pawn breaks, and my minor pieces always were tripping over each other.  I like fianchetto positions in general. Before the English, I played a lot of KIA, and before the Dragon, Pirc.</p>

<p>So what should I look into vs d4 if I like the Dragon, and especially the English?</p>
 4418: <p>I would try the Gruenfeld in your position. It has the fianchetto without the cramping and has a lot of scope for someone who likes a tactical, non-symmetric counter-punching kind of game.</p>
 6893: <p>Just as Brian Towers I would recommend you to give a look at the Grunfeld. The main difference with the KID is that you react faster in the center with <em>3...d5</em> and the resulting positions are often more open and "enjoyable" for your g7-bishop.
Other possibilities are the Benoni: play with c5 instead of e5 (in the KID) and with Queenside pawn play. Or the Benko Gambit which can lead to attacking positions with a dominant black square bishop (but depending on white's answer, the fianchetto won't always be the best option). In any case welcome back in the chess world and I wish you the best of luck with your black Dragon (a favorite of mine too)!!</p>
