I need you to shed a little more light about about my 10th great grandfather Ragem, if you please Leo Odera.
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Joram Ragem
wuod Ndinya, wuod Onam, wuod Amolo, wuod Owuoth, wuod Oganyo, wuod Mumbe, wuod Odongo, wuod Olwande, wuod Adhaya, wuod Ojuodhi, wuod Ragem! (Are you my relative?)
Mzee Leo Odera,
Amosi ahinya. Higni auchiel mokadho ne ayudo thuolo ma ne asomo gik ma Ajos
wuod Atiga ndiko go. Aparo ni pod en wuoyi matin(hike tin ne 60) kendo ang’eyo ni oa Kasipul (Raul Ndaya), Kanyano but Ruga. Nenore ni ok ong’eyo
sigana mar Luo kaka ne giwuotho ma gi chopo Milambo kaeri nyaka Tanzania. Dho Luo bende okiya. To moloyo, onego odogi osom sigand kwerene ei “Kasipul”. Jo Kasipul gi Komala(mistakenly called Kabondo) gin jo Kachien mane onyuol gi chi Chien mane Rachuonyo ne otero.
Koro, wach maduong’ ma omiyo andiko ni en ni in bende kare sigand Luo dwa tami. Iweyo gima duong’ ahinya e sigana ma indiko: Jo Luo ne odak Uganda ma obedo ruodhi mag Baganda mar higni 150 chakre 1350 nyaka 1500 eka ne Basoga ne oriembo gi. Higa 2008 kar dwe mar ang’wen kanyo Museveni ne ong’iso jo Baganda ni giwethage, ” after all your King is a Luo and all these Kings in Uganda part from the Ankole King, are Luos”. Mano Museveni ne ok oriambo. Mano e adiera. Tem mondo idog isomo sigandwa maber kendo. Nono to in be ibiro mana chiko kuma Ajos wuod Atiga be ochiko no.
Erokamano.
Prof. Chunga Nyamburaka
Mzee Leo Odera,
Amosi ahinya. Higni auchiel mokadho ne ayudo thuolo ma ne asomo gik ma Ajos
wuod Atiga ndiko go. Aparo ni pod en wuoyi matin(hike tin ne 60) kendo ang’eyo ni oa Kasipul (Rapul Ndaya), Kanyango but Ruga. Nenore ni ok ong’eyo
sigana mar Luo kaka ne giwuotho ma gi chopo Milambo kaeri nyaka Tanzania. Dho Luo bende okiya. To moloyo, onego odogi osom sigand kwerene ei “Kasipul”. Jo Kasipul gi Komala(mistakenly called Kabondo) gin jo Kachien mane onyuol gi chi Chien mane Rachuonyo ne otero.
Koro, wach maduong’ ma omiyo andiko ni en ni in bende kare sigand Luo dwa tami. Iweyo gima duong’ ahinya e sigana ma indiko: Jo Luo ne odak Uganda ma obedo ruodhi mag Baganda mar higni 150 chakre 1350 nyaka 1500 eka ne Basoga ne oriembo gi. Higa 2008 kar dwe mar ang’wen kanyo Museveni ne ong’iso jo Baganda ni giwethage, ” after all your King is a Luo and all these Kings in Uganda part from the Ankole King, are Luos”. Mano Museveni ne ok oriambo. Mano e adiera. Tem mondo idog isomo sigandwa maber kendo. Nono to in be ibiro mana chiko kuma Ajos wuod Atiga be ochiko no.
Erokamano.
Prof. Chunga Nyamburaka
Prof Chunga,
Aparo ka ok iwinja maber. An atemo mana chiwo detail of Luo familytree lineage.Kanitiue kama awacho ma ok nikare to onego iketa e ler. To in irimgo iodhi kumabor ma okm achope kakaKomalaKacxhien,uo mane otiyo ruodhi Uganda, Dak marLuo Uganda higni 150 kod mamoko.
Magigi idwa rikni matin.ok onego iduoka kama ok,awacho e adieri,korka nyuolruok Luo,to pod ok,a achope ni Ka Joluo nochopo ei Kenya to gidak gi e Got Ramogi e piny yimbo to kakoro gimedo yarore gidwaro pinje to thoth gi nokuongo odak Alego kama, kata gundini,magegi podi nitiere nyaka chil kawuono.
Aneno ka inyisa mondo asom weche Museveniu,ma ento oken ja Uganda to en Ja-Nyuarwanda maneobiro UIganda machiegni nyocha ni ka Luo nose dar Uganda kuro kuom higni madirom 400.ani benmde e ng’atno midwaro ni momdo asom,,gik, ma owacho?
Ang’eyo ni yawa ma ya Luo ohero suotoumigi eweche kata ma ok giwinjo tiend gi malong’o.Podi ok achopo e weche Rachuonyo kod chien kata Sipul.Yie modo iketa elr mana kuom nyuolruok Luo kaka amule matin no.We landosideissues.
Leo
Gik ma undiko malokaeni mora kabisa, to Prof. dak indikonwae laini ma mari! Dine aero ni ukelonae go nyaka Dibo ma Kano ochopoe. A Jakadibo, Kobura Kano.
Adoyo-Adoyo Maurice
CHAKRUOK MAR LUO.
Oganda wa mar Joluo nikod kuayo kuom jogo maose temo nono matuk kendo ongeyo koth gundwa kaka ne wachako wuoth kata dak marua kod yawa mamoko mane gin mwache mane wayudo epinje mane wakale ka wawuotho kawa wuok Egypt mawa chopo Sudan wapogore ma jomoko ne ochopo Uganda,Zaire,Cameroon, Nigeria kata Ghana Kenya kod Tanganyika.En sigana maber mathoth ji dwaro ngeyo. Asomo kaka owadwa ma iluongo ni Ngire Chunga Nyamburaka owacho ayanga ni gik ma Ajos Wuod Atiga oketo go thoth gi ok gin adiera to watem keto gi maler kaka onengo gibedi.An awuon an wuod Kamagambo ne aneno ka ondiko ni Gambo ne en wuoi to ma en miriambo Gambo-ne en(dhako) nyar Olual mane Jakasgunga- Mbita.Gambo ne otedo ne jamwa (Masai)mane nyinge Muserma mane jakwath kata misumba mar Mireri. Kamagambo oluoro od liel ngero ni kata pakruokni pod nitier nyaka sani to bende en kod tiende gima omiyo pod iwache nyaka sani.
Wamed re uru mana paro mabeyo e kindwa.
Jandiko en
Odhiambo Omolo Jarongo- Kodero Bara
Mos gi Kwe kuomun duto.
Adwaro dwoko erokamano mathoth ni Migosi Ajos Wuod Atiga Nyar-Ocholla kuom chir mane obedogo kaochako gano nonro mar oganda mamigawo mare en wan mailuongo ni Luo. Neochako mbaka madwaro jogano. Ajos nochako thum madwaro jomiel. Wapake mondo kendo wagone erokamano. Apako bende Migosi Leo Odera Omolo kuom golo pache. Prof. Chunga Nyamburaka bende owacho mare kaka jomamoko gobende. Koro mbaka mondo ochaki.
Nonro mar Luo chakore e ndalo ma Kush dynasty mane kome nitie kama aore ariyo romoe kamol dhi mwalo Misri. Kama ndalogi iluongo ni Napata. Bende dibedie ni kama neiluongo ni, kendo pod iluongo ni KOM OMBO ne en dala maduong’ mar tend Luo? To kama ne iluongo ni KADERO (achiel kuom mier mane pek endalo machon ma chalo kaka higni mag 4000BC) to wariworego nade? Wago mbaka.
GUNDWA KAKA JOLUO.
Jothurua kik wabed kod koko ekindwa kuom wach mar Wuodhwa kawa wuok Egypt kendo wachopo Sudan mawa dakia kendo oganda marwa pod ni kanyo nyaka sani. Wadwaro mana ngeyo ayanga kaka ne wawuok Sudan mawa chopo e pinje ma opogore kaka Uganda, Zaire, Ethopia, Cameroon, Nigeria, Ghana, Kenya,Tanganyika kod kuonde mamoko.
Jaduong Leo Odera Omolo nenore nikod Sigana maler ka luwore kod kaka ose bedo ka opuonjo wa kaka dak marua ose bedo ei Kenya. Yande aneno ka otemo kwero Ajuoga Machage kane duaro milore ni Jo Kuria emane okuonga dak South Nyanza to ne otemo ndiko ayanga kaka ne ongeyo kendo winjo kuom Jodongo kata Deye mane ogoyo godo mbaka e ndalo machon kendo moko to gik mane oneno koda wange kapod otin.Kik wabed kod duokruok ekindwa to wamed uru puonjore mana eyo maber gi muolo.Nyasaye oritu uduto un nyikwa Ramogi Ajwang.
Jandikoen
Odhiambo Omolo Jarongo- Kodero Bara
MEDO PARO MATUT KUOM GUNDUA KAKA JOLUO.
Piny owacho temo penjo ni wan kod yawa ma ose chodo buge ahinya kendo wadwaro ngeyo ni gin to giling nango kuom medo paro margi eyor dak marua kaka anyuola mar Joluo. Ajos Wuod Atiga ne ose chako wach maber ni to chalo ni tin ji nikod paro kaka inyak puonj gi joma tindo kaka piny kata oganda Joluo ne ochako dak ei Kenya,Uganda kod Tanganyika.
Anyuola mar Joluo biro lal nono kawan jogo ma ose bedo Jodongo kata Deye koro ok wamako wachni ma otegno.Wapuonjre uru ekindua gik ma omiyo iluongowa ni Joluo. Kitua kata timbewa kod wechewa ema miyo wabedo anyuola ma iluongo ni ONAGI KATA LUO.
Jandiko en.
Odhiambo Omolo Jarongo-Kodero Bara
Pastor Odera Nyakwar Owuor kaKere biro nyasou wach kochakore Misiri nyaka wakatho Sudan, Uganda, Tanganyika, Kongo togi pinge mamoko.
Sam Odera.
Whither from, the modern Luos? Were the Ancient Egyptians the current Luos of East and Central Africa?
Was Atum, Tem, Temu ,Atem Luo god of creation? The Egyptian translation is equivalent to the Luo one. According to the modern Luos, Atumo is the one who has completed a task. Tem is to embark on a task. Temu/Timu is to complete/carry out a task. The Luo especially those of Alego, Ugenya and Yimbo clans in Kenya have maintained their old dialect they brought down in their migration from Uganda; and so have the Acholli of Uganda retained their folklore which is full of innuendos of Luo Egyptian cradle.
Luos of the Alego, Ugenya and Yimbo clans in Kenya would say Temu, whereas the rest of the other clans would use tem/tim. These are the same variations that we find in the Egyptian translations of the texts. In the myth, Atum is said to have been a hermaphrodite and that this could be why his name suggests completeness. I don’t disagree. However, because Atum indulged or mustarbated , something not openly spoken about, he/she did and his/her name would be Atum.Sexual escapades amongs the Luo are still referred to in whispers as w’atum-re, atum ra. Note that the ra/re here is not trying to replace the Egyptian sun god Ra/Re, but food for thought.
Aken was the Egyptian god that rode the chariots that ferried the souls to the underworld. Kan/Ken is Luo for store away, keep out of sight. Aken is the one who ferries out of sight to store or hide. It is the souls of the dead that were taken, the Kau. Kau means take in Dholuo(tongue of the Luo).The soul was then ferried to Duat the furthest ends of the underworld. The Luos still speak of unimaginable farthest places as nyar’duat /Nyan’duat. If one day it is proven that the Luos built the early Egyptian civilization, then there will be a rush to understand and preserve the Luo languages so as to clearly decipher the Egyptian texts.
Min was the Egyptian god of fertility, creation and his names just like in hieroglyphics equally translates into Luo as mother and Min-Amun as mother of Amun. Min is depicted as a male deity, which is not uncommon among the Luo people. In fact a brother is referred to as o’min because of the shared womb or descent.
Amun would be the name of one who does not reveal his nature or feelings. He is the hidden one (Egyptian translation), the mysterious one. If you sulk and keep your lips tights then your mother in Luoland will tell you we mun ri. Stop hiding it in yourself, or simply put, open up. Remember ra is first person, ri is second person and re is third person suffixes among the Luos. Mun/Muno is to hide things in you and Amun/Amuno will be your nickname. Most Luo names are derived like this, would normally end with letter o. Akeno ,Amuno, Atumo, Atemo, Akaro,Akero, Mino ( Mine, pl). Amun became the Egyptian god of creation, winds and the heavenly elements. His literal translation means the hidden one.
The Luos are definitely a Nilotic group of languages because they have had so much to do with this river, but how far north of River Nile can we trace the Luo?
Akar Egyptian god of the horizons depicted with two lions (ruti) carrying a sun disk on their backs while facing opposite directions. Akar watches the sun from one horizon to the other horizon, he has a big stride over the earth and suggest control of the sun‘s path, an arc, across the sky and to the other side. Amongst the Luo, to open your legs wide apart/arc over is kar and Akar would be one who does exactly that. The two lions referred to as ruti would still be called ruti/rute/rude in modern Luo which means twins or things coming in twos.
Thoth means many, a lot, plenty, or enormous collection of,in Luo. He was the Egyptian god of learning and wisdom and science. He was three gods in one. He was simply many, thoth. Thoth is said to be Greek in origin though.Ne ong’eyo ma’ thoth. He knew a lot, he was a genius god.
Osiris. Osiri is a Luo name for hardy vegetation found in arid areas; it must have been a welcome sight in the desert and may have had lots of uses. Sir is a pillar that supports a house. Egyptian god Osiris was god of vegetation; he was depicted in green. In the myth Osiris was turned into a pillar by Byblos. Osiris sister and wife is Isis. They are found side by side. Sir/Siro is a pillar versus Sis which is the wall in Dholuo (Luo tongue).
Monsters
Apep swallowed the sun whole/all (pep), the sun during full solar eclipses .He therefore became Apep to old Egyptians as well.
Ammit, the devourer, must have enjoyed the constant supply of souls that had made the scales tilt due to the weight of their filth. This dish must have been tasty (mit/mamit) no wonder he became Ammit, the one found the souls tasty, the one who devours. He must have been the bane of crying little children whenever they got told off, for Ammit would find them tasty if they didn’t stop crying. Ammit’s abode was the underworld Duat, farthest ends of the world, Luos will say nyanDUAT.
Place names
Amun’s oracle was at the temple at Siwa, an expansive oasis still existing to the present day. Siwa in Luo means oasis! A place where water seeps from the ground is called Siwa. The present Luos still worship and revere such sites as source of life.
Karnak, sounds like a place of rituals, a temple place. Luos had numerous rituals.kar means place nak is the removal of six lower teeth; there are many other rituals. Nak would have also meant just any other ritual, who knows. There are major temples ruins at Karnak. It must have been a ritual city where many gods were worshipped and sacrifices carried out.
American trained Ph.D. in Theoretical Physics but East African by origin.
Wach mbaka mar Luo to moko inyalo yudo e
website mar http://www.gurtong.net
Then idhi kama ondiki e ethnic groups ibiro yudo Jur Chol(Luo sometimes spelled Lwo) then click to open it and read.
Actually, Lwo is the old spelling to tinde wuolongo mana ni Luo. Nyocha ne jago moro olero na tiend nying’ mar Kavirondo. Wazungu ka ne ochopo western Kenya-Nyanza and Western provinces -to jo Giriama/Digo mane gin godo ema ne ochako luongo wa ni Kavirondo-actually “Kaa virondo” literally guom. Luo ne ohero guom ka ooyo chieng. Hehehehehe. Kwa hivyo walikuwa wana kaa virondo. Nyanza, Nyasa, Niassa, etc en dho Bantu mar nam.
Cham lusi maber.
Chunga Nyamburaka
En mana Duoko Maduong kuom Chiwo Andiko Machalo kama, to akwayo ni mondo ikelnwa nonro mar Seme.
Ruoth obed kodu
Aruwa Jaseme
No no no!!! Luo is NOT FROM SUDAN. (Sud Swamp = Sudan Country Name ~Given by British so no Luo should remember being in a place called Sudan or Egypt)
Nuba Moutains are in the Central Part Of Sudan and are the Home of the Nuba People who are in No way Related to The Nubians,, who I Believe, know a thing or 2 about the Luo.
No No No …. Luo Passed through Masri but are NOT from There.
No No No !!! The Languge will not singularly point you to Luo Beginings, What Luo speak is from the Shilluk, Luo lost their languge several times as they followed the Nile Southwards.
The answer to were the Luo came from lies in your Name as a People & In the Names carried by some of your peoples.
Ask the Kalenjin about thier stay in Kagypta and what/who made them migrate back down southwards.
What Do your own Accounts tell you about where the Luo came from,, Why do they include a whisper of a Place called Babylon.
No No No Luo is not From Sudan or Egypt.
Why is it that it is SO unclear to Luo where you came from. Is it that you came such a long way over such a long time. Lived in so many places and have had several appearances. Today when you ask where you came from you are pointed to the wrong place as your cradle,,Sudan & you ignore that tale you heard told somwhere that THIS IS where the Luo came from.
The story of the Luo Journey is as cryptic as the River Nile is Straight.
Just Follow the Trail Slowly and truely not looking for any racial similarities like black african, nor be deterred by the Brown Arab or White Aryan you may encounter along your way,, and you will learn of the Amazing Journey the Luo People Undertook.
Do Not Loose Your Story …. Luo Is NOT FROM SUDAN
Amazing things unearthed!!,It seems more is yet to be revealed. This is profitable and enriching and keeps the history and legend among the luos alive. Disputes cannot arise over were the luos came from. I admire the recollections building up into a recreation of the life and origin of a great people and am sure the ultimate will be to seek to know the origin of the language spoken as luo. I think and for sure wont lie here that the only black race on earth is luo, the rest, be they fare skined or light are genetic modifications or just adaptation to the environment. For the highly learnt along anthropology, you have the onus to research and provide evidence that the original lanugage on earth was luo, the rest being variations as a result of distortions and confusions that emerged.
Hey wont you be fired up to know that you are the most noble !!!!
There is a whisper that the pharaos of Egypt were black and that the Luos are their offsprings is it true? puonja Uru
The argument of where we came from may not be of any relevance now. In my opinion and statistical facts, the Luos are the most intelligent community the world has ever had. This is the fact, and we should not only be proud of this Mighty blessing but also continue to uphold it. Send children to school, teach them good morals and ethics and the ways of God. This is why the Jaluos are superior. My name is Joseph Okello Enyonu, a jaluo from Northern Uganda
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