much of the commentary on this board revolve around debate the validity of some comparison to r dog make on the dvd cover . forget about all of that . this film er home movie be utterly horrendous . how can anyone with a shred of credibility claim this a be positive . there be no plot and none . i couldn not believe that i spend money to rent this ( more on that later ) and that i have fool myself into believe that this ( base on box cover art and some sort of film fest award blurb ) have potential . the only thing i do really remember be that and unbelievably and one of the annoy main character be supposedly off with a bullet to the head . and he end up survive the wound and make it to the final credit alive . wow . and looky dere and killer have a sequel . double wow . true story i actually be in so much denial that i have waste my money and life force on this rental that i keep the videotape for what must have be six month . i keep tell myself that it never actually happen . the video on top of the tv be an illusion a mental symbol of my self loathing . after someone point out that be be indeed real and that i need to get a grip and i decide that i couldn not just leave it there . i think and how many others have i deny the suffering of sit through the viewing of this masterpiece by hoard killer all to myself . i have to do the right thing and return it back to the hell from which it come . so and a i imagine most of the populous of imdb would do in a similar situation and i muster up some major courage and drive to the video store . at 2am . after make sure that no one be around and i get out of my car ( still run of course ) and slip the movie into the drop box slot and and book the hell out of there never to return . i guess i expect that some goon from hollywood video corporate would come look for me ( the bill must have rack up to something like $ 1 and 238 . 67 by that time ) so i move away from the area . however and coincidently and much like the killer storyline and nothing ever happen .