okay and last night and august 18th and 2004 and i have the distinct displeasure of meet mr. van bebble at a showing of the film the manson family at the three penny in chicago a part of the chicago underground film festival . here what i have to say about it . first of all and the film be an obvious rip off of every kenneth anger and roman polanski and oliver stone and terry gilliam movie i have ever see . second of all and in a short q and a session after the show mr. van bebble immediately state that he never make any contact with the actual manson family member or charlie himself and call them liar and say he want nothing to do with them and that the film be base on his ( van bebble ) take on the trial have see it all from his living room on tv and in the news ( and i be assume from the autobiography and the book helter skelter which be directly mimic through the narrative ) . so i have second dibs on question and i ask if he be try to present the outsider and mtv and sex drug and rock n roll version and not necessarily the true story . this question obviously piss off the by now slosh director who start shout f you and shut the f up and this be the truth . all those other movie be bullsh . well anyway and i do not even think about how ridiculous this be until the next day when i read the tagline for the film and you have hear the law side of the story . now hear the story a it be tell by the manson family . excuse me and if this guy have never even speak to the family and considers them to be liar that he doesn not want to have anything to do with and how in god name can he tell the story for them . this be the most ridiculous statement i have ever hear . the film be obviously cater to the sex drug and rock n roll audience that it have no trouble in attract to the small and dimly lit theatre and and be even more obviously spawn by the sex drug and rock n roll mind of a man who couldn not even watch his own film without get up every ten minute to go get more beer or to shout some sort of rocky horroresque call line to the actor on screen . this film accomplish little more than warp the public image of actual event ( which help shape the state of america and much of the world today ) into some sort of slasher or comic book or porno or rape fantasy dream up by an obviously shallow individual . the film be definitely very impressive to look at . the soundtrack be refresh a it contain actual sample of charlie work with the family off of his lie album . the editing be nice and choppy to simulate the nauseating uncertainty of most modern music video . all in all this film would have make a much good addition to the catalogue at mtv than to the underground film festival or for that matter the mind of any intellectual observer . i felt like i be at a midnight rocky horror view the way the audience be dress and behave ( probably the best part of the experience ) . the cast be very good with the exception of charlie who resemble some sort of stoned dungeon and dragon enthusiast more than the actual role he be portray . the description the film give of him a full of energy and throw ten thing at you and be very physical about it all the while do not match at all the slow and lethargic and and chubby representation that be actually present . all in all the film basically explain itself a sadie ( or maybe it be linda ) declare at the end and you can write a bunch of bullsh book or make a bunch of bullsh movie . etc . etc . case in point . even the disclaimer base on a true story be a dead giveaway and signal that somewhere beneath this psychedelic garbage heap lay the foundation of an actual story with content that will make and have make a difference in the world . all you have to do be a little bit of alchemy to separate the truth from the the crap and or actually and maybe you could just avoid it all together and go read a book instead . all i can say be this and when the film end i get a free beer so i be glad i go and but not so glad i spent fifteen dollar on my ticket to be tell to shut the f up for ask the director a question . peace .