ocean twelve represent just plain stupid and bad and nothing compare to the other two . an art robbery . 10 known actor and at least . a weak script and very slow develop idea . that why i characterize a movie i only saw at least 20 minute of it . don not get me wrong and you may like it . but i only like the ocean film because of the heist theme . if ocean 12 it not about heist then what the point to see it . glad soderberg saw his main error and redeem himself by make a film far superior to the first one . kudos for that . steven soderberg isn not really a good director . apart from his hit sex lie and videotape . nothing else happen so much great to the career of this director . shame on him . but his fault only .