first and i like this movie very much . but and a you can see from the previous comment and this be a movie that you will either love or hate . but it hard to be indifferent to it . zwigoff do a wonderful job of set a mood that allow you to examine an artist who be deprave and perverse and and yet and insightful . everyone seem to come away from the movie with an idea that robert be spar the obvious insanity of his two brother because of his art . but i see it differently ( hence the title of this comment ) . even robert admits that his brother and charles and be a good cartoonist . another way to view robert success and his brother descent into crazy be fame . crumb be an involuntary icon of the 60 . where would robert be today if he wasn not recognize and reward in the 60 . if zap comix have turn him away for his misogynist and racist comic and would he have have the subsequent female relationship that seem to normalize his existence . what would his fantasizing over a high school yearbook and habitual masturbation meant if he be an unknown share a room with his brother at mom house . when i watch this movie and i be always mindful that robert obvious genius would be lose be it not for his luck at be discover . i suppose that be an obvious statement but and in crumb case and fame have manage to gloss over many unacceptable characteristic . and and maybe and that not such a bad thing . the film lightly touch on crumb relationship with his son and daughter . for some reason and crumb bumbling attempt at affection with his child be a bit disturb . or maybe it just that crumb fixation with wrestling and piggyback rid lingers in your mind when he hug his daughter . on a light note and i have notice that no one have mention the soundtrack of this movie . design to be in keep with robert love of old american music and the music help to define the subject . i wonder why zwigoff make no mention of crumb cheap suit serenaders band . crumb comment against the crass commercialism of america . and and yet and i first saw this movie at a theater in baltimore where the lobby be chock full of crumb comic picture card and mug and etc . crumb and the movie and be a crazy world of contradiction and well worth the ride .