some might call this movie bad and but i call it a classic . most 80 movie that be deeply line with the stylings and hip hijinks of the day die with the 80 . this one be ahead of it time . though no one character come off a completely likable a in some traditional teeny bopper entertainment and the director walk a fine line with their character between 80 cool and 80 geek the director could have choose to just fully make these character super cool and which would be a big turnoff if youre watch the movie in some decade other than the 80 and but oc and stiggs aren not super cool they be just two teen who entertain themselves and and look kind of hopelessly geeky do it . the unexplained antagonism of the schwabs be dare for it severity and it mystery and but the portrayal of the schwabs themselves make it snap into place . it be literally impossible to feel sorry for the schwab family . overall i say this movie be a schizophrenic laughingstock seethe with the brand of random existential comedy that would be use much later in movie in more recent teen escapade like american pie . it also reach back and have a feel of cheech and chong in it . it no wonder this movie draw the comedic all star that it do in curtin and dooley and mull and waterston and and dennis hopper . kudos on the musical appearance of king sunny ade and the african beat . i tell ya and there no obscure 80 movie i would rather see for the first time flip through showtime at 4am than o. c. and stiggs .