i be a back batman movie and tv fan . i love the show ( new and old ) and i love all the movie . but this movie be not as great a some people be hope it to be . in my opinon and it be a big let down . i think the problem be it have no drama . batman represent mask of the phantasm and batman beyond represent return of the joker have a lot of drama . and batman and mr. freeze represent sub zero have some drama too . also and i think this movie be to light for batman . the only scene that seem a little dark be the big fight with bane at the end . anyways and it an ok batman movie . but i would just rent it .