yep . this be definatly up there with some of the bad of the mstifyed movie and but i have definately see bad . think gremlin rat r. well anyway and i meet rick sloane at some sci fi convention and that amazingly and he be lecture at . it be one of those really low budget convention and where everything go and an everyone bring in something ( if you want to see crap and you should have of see what some friend and i brought in ) . he seem like a very nice guy and he be very cool about my question and comment on hobgoblin and and he even tell me not to take it seriously and and say he love the mst3k version . all in all and rick sloane know what he be do . and i think be mean to bad like mar attack . so i guess i be stand up for this movie and give it a 5 and and betray all my fellow msties . sorry guy .