We need to do whatever it takes and it might be clamping down on people hard in order to have stability, in order to have rule. And you can imagine the context in which this legalism is coming about. This is during the Warring States period, this incredibly violent period where the states in China are fragmented and so you can imagine these people who are very realistic. They're like, look, we've had this Confucianism. We have these other philosophies but we need strong, super centralized rulers. And it ends up being that legalist philosophy that wins the day as you have the emergence of the Qin Dynasty in 221 and the Qin Dynasty is what modern China is named after and it's considered the first dynasty to really unify China in a very strong way and create its administrative and bureaucratic systems and it really is based on legalism and it was able to put an end to this Warring States period by putting so much power, central power, in strong rulers who are willing to be quite violent in repressing other people in order to bring that stability and it's notable that the emergence of the Qin is also considered the end of the 100 schools of thought because the Qin, as part of that order, started persecuting many of the other forms of philosophy including many of those that followed Confucius. Now other forms of philosophy, and this is just a sample that have strongly influenced China, you have Taoism.