And then it continues on. Much of Western civilization, especially Europe and the Mediterranean, has its foundations in the Roman Empire and then before that, Greek civilization. And the Roman Empire is really up there alongside the Persian Empire as one of the really great civilizations or empires. And when I say great, you should take that with a grain of salt. Great, I'm saying it was big, it was powerful, but not everything they did was great. They had a lot of slavery, they were very cruel, they were sometimes very violent. So take these terms great with a grain of salt.