So this might be one individual right over here, and then we might have another individual right over here. And this separateness, the illusion of the reality that we see around us, this is referred to as maya. And maya is not just the illusion or the quasi-illusion created by our senses. It is even notions like our ego, our identity. And within that context, that inner self, that thing that is even within our, that is even deeper than our sense of identity, this is referred to as atman. And as you can see, the way it's been diagrammed here, the way we've drawn it out, atman is essentially the same thing as Brahman. And oftentimes, you will see it referred to as atman dash Brahman.