And Carthage, especially, it didn't have citizen soldiers. Its army was made up of, the Navy had citizen, I guess you say sailors, but its army was made up mainly of mercenaries. Mercenaries. So these are soldiers who really, if you pay them enough, they're gonna fight for you. They don't really have allegiances based on some type of ideology or citizenship. So Carthage, as they went through this many decades war, they one, had to pay all these mercenaries. They had their own costs.