But then his grandfather dies when he is eight years old, and he goes under the custody of his uncle, Abu Dhalib. Now, as he grows older, he does learn a skill. He essentially becomes a merchant. He goes on trading journeys with his uncle, Abu Dhalib, to places like Syria. And as he does that, according to Islamic tradition, he gets a very favorable reputation. He gets these titles like Al-Amin, the trustworthy one, or Al-Siddiq, the truthful. Now, he continues doing that until the age of 25.