So it doesn't matter. What matters is the effects. So let's look at the effects. I think there's a number of them, but the biggest one is definitely going to be a rise of nationalism with that huge power vacuum that's going to occur with the Catholic Church losing its political and religious authority over Europe. Not only do you have Lutherism that is spreading across the continent, but you also have Calvinism and Puritism and the Church of England is coming around town. So the Catholic Church power is going bye-bye and that's probably going to create in the short term more conflict between nation states. And we have the 30-year war, which is going to wipe out something like 40% of all Germans towards the end of the Protestant Reformation.