But the Venetians had centuries of experience as mariners, and also lots of boats. Speaking of ships, I ship these guys. So the Ottomans were content to let the Venetians do all the actual, like, trading and carrying of goods, and they just made their money from taxes. And that worked because both Venice and the Ottomans added value to each other. Healthy relationships, listen up, me from the past, aren't about extracting value. They have to be mutually beneficial to work. And boy, was that a mutually beneficial relationship.