There isn't anything more real than that. And we are subject to this reality because of our constant craving for that which is impermanent. This craving is called trishna, which is the Sanskrit word, or thana, which is the Pali word, the language of Buddha. Now because of this craving, it leads to this constant suffering, this dukkha, which is really this reality that we are subjecting ourselves to. Now in either case, we take action, and that action leads to consequences. And so in both traditions, we have this notion of karma. And that the karma, the actions with consequences, lead to further actions and consequences, not just in this life, but in future realities, in whatever next maya or reality or life that we take on.