And what's interesting here, he's saying things that are consistent with many of the Hindu ascetics of the time. That you shouldn't devote yourself to sensual pleasure with reference to sensual objects, base, vulgar, common, ignoble. But he's also saying that you shouldn't go the other extreme either. You shouldn't devote yourself to self-affliction, painful, ignoble, unprofitable. That that too is not going to lead to the truth. He says avoid both of these extremes, the middle way. Now in the Dhammakaka-pavatana-sutra, he goes on to describe what are known as four noble truths.