But if you go to any temple in Jainism or any book of Jainism, you're going to run into this swastika. And one of the concepts is that each point on the swastika represents a different entry into the universe for our souls. So you could come back as a deva and that would be basically a god. They don't believe in a god, but they do believe that if you can elevate your soul, rid yourself of karma, that you can come back as a deity, as a god yourself before you achieve perfect moksha. Now they also believe you can come back as a human or an animal. They believe you can come back as a hellish creature and they believe you can come back as a subhuman, like literally like a plant. And all of these provide your soul opportunity to achieve moksha.