And so the fact that Hortensia can actually enter into the space and be so outspoken is sort of evidence of the fact that Roman women had a degree more freedom than other women who were their contemporaries in other societies. Absolutely. And let's continue that comparison. We can go about 100, 150 years further in the future from Hortensia's speech. And let's also go to the other side of, almost the other side of the world. We'll go to Eastern Asia, where we are in the Eastern Han Dynasty. So here we have some text from Ban Zhao, who was a female historian, astronomer, mathematician, Confucian philosopher, co-author of the history, the official history book of Han.