And we have to be careful here. You might be tempted to say times the area, but no, the horizontal axis here is the natural log of the area, times the natural log of the area. And so we can use this equation for both scenarios to think about what is going to be the proportion that we would expect to get extinct in either situation. And then how many actual species will get extinct. And then the one that maybe has fewer species that get extinct is maybe the best one. Or the one that the more that we can preserve is maybe the best one. And so let's look at the two scenarios.