Five plus eight is 13, plus four is 17, plus three is 20. So there are 20 pies in this store. But then you can ask more nuanced questions. What if you wanted to know the number of pies with more than 60 cherries? The number of pies with more than 60. So number of pies with, I'll say, let's say 60 or more. 60 or more, 60 or more cherries.