Now, for each of those 20 scenarios, how many people could sit in seat three? Well, we haven't sat, we haven't, we haven't seaten or sat three of the people yet, so for each of these 20, we could put three different people in seat three. So that gives us five times four times three scenarios. So this is equal to five times four times three scenarios, which is equal to, this is equal to 60. So there's 60 permutations of sitting five people in three chairs. Now, this, and this is my brain, you know, whenever I start to think in terms of permutations, I actually think in these ways. I just literally draw it out because especially, you know, I don't like formulas.