Well, it's going to equal zero when our numerator is equal to zero and our denominator isn't. So when is our numerator going to be zero? When x is equal to negative three. So when x is equal to negative three, the derivative is equal to zero. So what is going to be the corresponding y value when x is equal to negative three? And if we know that, well, this equation is just going to be y is equal to something. It's going to be that y value.