 Collaborations with Miguel Lacsamana on a few Radel Esca songs became a catalyst for the band.S&P became an outlet for a simpler songwriting process, opposed to the intricate sample based work of either Radel Esca's or the Sugar Coated Bullets' music.Over the next year, Stamen & Pistils became more of a serious effort as the duo began to focus more on songwriting together.