# Talk:Spellbook of create familiar
Superseded by +poly?
Can you get top-tier pets with this, eg an Archon or a Ki-rin?  Can you get those from a Spellbook_of_polymorph?  And anyway, how many characters reach sufficient skill levels in both clerical and matter to have a choice between the two?5thSetPin (talk) 03:53, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

It looks like the 2/3 chance of creating a random monster obeys standard generation rules. So if you're level 30 on the planes, there should be a "decent" chance of getting an Archon or Ki-rin. You cannot get those specific pets from polymorph, since all A are not valid polymorph forms. You can still get pretty good pets (titans, vampires, purple worms, mind flayers), just not anything as amazing as an Archon.
Regarding spellbooks, polymorph has alternative sources, such as the wand and trap. I would say that the trap is the most useful of all, since there's no risk of system shock nor any need to drain energy/wand charges. So it's not really necessary to learn the extremely difficult spell, while create familiar has no other sources.
Personally, I just use charm monster. -- Qazmlpok (talk) 13:34, 18 February 2014 (UTC)