# Talk:Fire
Same questions as "Cold" page. Does everything always burn (I don't think so)? If equations are unknown anything might be helpful: if I trigger fire trap with 10 scrolls would I lose about 8 or about 2? Does container protect my stuff? Does fire resistance protect stuff (I don't think so)? Does reflection? DemonDoll 18:00, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

I think how many scrolls you lose also depends on your luck.
If we start adding all the exceptions, like scrolls/books of fire, we will probably duplicate a lot of existing articles, and the article will become as unreadable as altar is now. Does anybody have a good idea? Tjr 15:43, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

What exceptions? I think the "reflection deflects rays" says enough in this section. It's hard for me to say how to improve this section because I'm actually unclear on this game mechanic so please answer the following question: "When a naked character with no relevant intrinsics that is holding 10 non-stacked scrolls is hit by fire, will each and every scroll burn with 100% probability?" If so, this should be made just a tiny bit clearer in the article. If not, what are the probabilities? Maybe I'm just a dense newb but what are the exceptions? DemonDoll 18:02, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Exceptions: For one, scrolls/books of fire will never burn. Assuming the game is true to itself, there will be gazillions of special cases. For example, does reflection defer a pyrolisk's gaze attack (yes)? Does it matter in what order scrolls are in the game's internal object list, i. e. in what order you picked them up (dunno)? What happens if your are hit by several attacks (probably one after the other)? What happens if the spellbook you are reading is burnt(dunno)? If you cast fire (not fireball at skilled) at yourself, is your inventory affected(guess no)? Does intrinsic reflection (poly into silver dragon) protect your inventory (guess yes)? Are dropped objects on your square affected when monsters attack you (yes if wand, no if gaze)?
I have added as much as I know. The burning scrolls question just doesn't apply in my playing style: I will stop carrying scrolls and potions in the open as soon as I have a bag and some non-flammable escape items. Even with reflection, magic traps (mines,quest) can have fire traps effects and burn a lot of precious stuff. But I have had only a subset of scrolls being burnt.-Tjr 23:50, 21 May 2009 (UTC)