# Talk:Binder (dNetHack role)
Should binders really be allowed to be incantifiers? I feel like the no natural healing and eating magic applies, but the ability to get expert in all forms of magic kinda feels against the spirit of a binder. Just a thought.
--EasterlyIrk (talk) 15:03, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

Cram rations
Do Binders really have a chance to get a stack of cram rations? It looks like they only get one. Actually, it looks none of the Binder loadouts have random stacks. They're all of explicitly specified quantity. Unless I'm wrong - still learning my way around reading C.--Mackeyth (talk) 08:38, 24 June 2020 (UTC)