# Talk:Ice mage
Flame vs. Ice
It seems to me that Ice Mage is vastly inferior to Red Mage, even if the two seem compeletely identical. He gets Power Surge much later, and can't specialize in nearly as many weapons. Correct me if I'm wrong.
---I'm inclined to agree for many of the reasons I outline in the Flame Mage vs. Ice Mage section, though I would point out that in the unlikely event that you haven't branched out into ice magic by the endgame, the ice mage would have the advantage of magic that works on demons.  I suppose cone of cold is also a slightly more powerful spell than fireball.  But in the opening, there is a serious imbalance between the two. 64.185.146.160 06:58, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Long Sword Skill
There is a contradiction, the skill table says the longsword skill goes to skilled and the first bulleted paragraph recomends getting excalibur if lawful because longsword goes to expert? PuercoPop 13:17, September 17, 2009 (UTC)