# Talk:Rogue level
Lower case monsters?
Odd thing happened on the Rogue level today.  I tried to open a + door and received the message, "The door actually was a small mimic!" The mimic was then portrayed by the lower-case "m", something I had not thought possible with the Rogue level. Is it possible that this was a mimic which had fallen in a hole in the level above or something equally unexpected, or did the game actually spawn a lower-case monster? Delbow 03:09, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm surprised that you even saw a +; real doors aren't supposed to appear on the Rogue level.  Perhaps the DevTeam needs to know.——Ray Chason 05:13, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
It's bug C343-34. --Tjr 11:39, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
Troll corpses
Somebody removed my clarification: "Trolls, however, will still rise if you bring along their corpse." Due to Source:Mon.c#line1548, trolls never leave a corpse on the Rogue level. So the only source of troll corpses is the player (or his pets) who might carry one. I believe the short version "however, trolls will still rise" is prone to misunderstandings:  somebody could think trolls are an exception that leaves corpses. 
If there is no discussion here until June 7, I am going to reinsert my clarification. --Tjr (talk) 18:28, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Given the absence of discussion, I readded the clarification, but generalized it a bit; another source would be a wished-for troll corpse, for example. (A troll wish in more than one way, but what matters is that it can happen – "bring along" seems to imply it had been somewhere else before and it came to the level with the player.) I agree on the misunderstandability of the shortened version. —bcode&nbsp;talk&nbsp;|&nbsp;mail 06:38, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
I also agree, after reading old version I thought that it means that trolls will rise despite leaving no corpse Bulwersator (talk) 09:02, 2 April 2013 (UTC)