# Talk:Shock
What are the odds of losing a ring/wand to shock? Is it dependent on the amount of damage? if not, couldn't a group of gridbugs seriously screw you by taking away important jewelry? DemonDoll 15:30, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

The odds are very small, but I'd like to see exact values, too. I think it is dependent on the special attack hitting, not on how much damage it does. However, since grid bugs have rather low-damage attacks, exploding items is clearly correllated to total damage. Yes, exploding rings can seriously screw you, e. g. conflict if in a horde, telecontrol if afflicted with teleporitis, polymorph control if a were-creature, gain strength if you then become  burdened etc. -Tjr 15:51, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Item Destruction bypassing reflection
Per the article, "The only item-destroying shock attacks that aren't blocked by reflection are those from electric eels, container traps, Mjollnir, and unusually high-level grid bugs. None of these is common so they can usually be avoided, so you don't need to keep backup rings if you're careful (but it still never hurts)."
I believe Energy Vortices should be in here as well -- their post-engulf shocking touch attack is not affected by reflection.