# Talk:Identification
Should this page really be considered a stub? Even though it's much shorter than it could be, it's still a lot longer than the 1-3 paragraph article that would make up a stub. 206.116.28.142 08:33, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Weight identification
I've added identification by weight. This does really occur in practice, though rarely. Usually, it doesn't refine price grouping much further if you are willing to wear armor thereafter. However, you can tell cursed levitation boots from the rest, it works on gray stones in containers, and cursed gauntlets of power can be ruled out. Finally, I hear some players are ethically opposed to price id.
(New comment, someone forgot to tag their comment&nbsp;;), I am just responding to that comment)
Not ethically opposed to price id myself per se, but in practice I've found things that I can keep in my head make the game more enjoyable than referencing the price page all the time. The most I do nowadays is, "Oh, yes, these are numerous and cheap, must be identify!" I mean, how can you forget that information, with it being the cheapest scroll? And things like "Oh, this spellbook is really cheap, must be a low level &amp; a low failure rate to read, might give it a shot given my current intelligence!" I mean, there's the logic puzzle from past experience &amp; general knowledge which I find more enjoyable. But looking up the exact price of the amnesia scroll every time I am looking through scrolls? I know it's on the top shelf of scroll cost, that's all the met-knowledge I need. If I see something expensive, I won't try my luck. Speaking of forgetfulness, my next comment is what brought me here! I may have some new information on identifying scrolls of scare monster easy-peasy!Amp-The-Champ (talk) 15:48, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
I was picking up and putting down my scroll till it disintegrated to see if it was scare monster, when I saw flash by my screen that my pet cat fled from me. I've seen it listed on the wiki that peaceful creatures now flee from you in 3.6.0, but I didn't see anything about pets. That would make identifying it very easy, no need to lure a monster over to a random early scroll to identify it as scare monster or not. Once I am 100% and verified it I might add that to the identification tactics of scare monster on this page, I was playing too quick and am not 100% it was my pet. I will get back to you once I have a chance to test it if someone else doesn't do it first. Cause who can't get their pet next to them to identify it, right? Easy ID in 3.6.0!.Amp-The-Champ (talk) 15:48, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Type identification vs individual object identification
I have started some work on having this page distinguish between type identification and identification of the properties of individual objects (do we have a name for this?  I'm calling it "individual object identification"), because these are actually distinct concepts, even if they all get identified by a scroll of identify.  Previously, this page was only about type identification.  The (annoying) stacking rule based on object identification can cause informal object identification methods to be strategically significant, and I know of no other page about this on the wiki. Cathartes (talk) 15:50, 17 September 2022 (UTC)