# Talk:Spirits (dNetHack)
Wand Damage Skill
What does it mean that Saimon grants "skill" in wand damage? Can you train that skill permanently? --Testbutt (talk) 17:15, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

It's a skill like any other, it's displayed under spells and given at varying max levels to some roles. Only affects wand zaps and anything else that is treated similarly (possibly a couple artifact invokes, maybe horns of frost/fire), and just boosts damage. Should be explained somewhere likely, but not here, probably on the rule changes page. EasterlyIrk (talk) 19:09, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
Any similarities to that from the Wands Balance Patch? -Actual-nh (talk) 02:07, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
Spirits with slots
"Binding Dahlver-Nar expels Acererak. Breaking this taboo does not drain a level, but you must still wait for the timeout to expire." What is meant regarding the timeout? In other words, normally the timeout is the way to unbind a spirit without losing a level. -Actual-nh (talk) 01:25, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
Timeout normally determines when your binding ends, and when you're able to rebind. This still applies here - you just can't rebind immediately if broken via binding the other quest spirit, despite it not being a "normal" binding break. --EasterlyIrk (talk) 01:32, 5 January 2021 (UTC)