# Talk:Amulet of flying
How is this different from vanilla nethack's flying intrinsic (e. g. available from polyself in a vampire lord)? Tjr 20:33, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the only difference is that it's available from an amulet. I'm assuming that you mean most of the content on the page should be moved to or reference flying; no reason why it couldn't, I guess. -- Qazmlpok 20:45, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
Oh sorry, I didn't notice that page already existed.  I thought it would have been at flight, not flying.  I'll change it to just reference that page now. -Ion frigate 22:35, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
Underwater items
I haven't got this far, but according to the Sunless Sea page another disadvantage is that you can't use a bullwhip to snatch underwater items while flying. This is apparently less of a ridiculous corner case than it sounds, because the magic lamp in the Sunless Sea could be underwater. -- Slandor 02:36, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah it always seems to be actually (one of the engravings mentions this, and even if it's randomly placed there'd be an ~80% chance of it being in the water). Personally, I always use gauntlets of swimming to retrieve it if I really need it, though by the time you reach the Sunless Sea one wish is generally not that pressing of a need, especially since you can already have gotten GDSM from the Lawful Quest or possibly the Wyrm Caves, speed boots and wand of death from the Spider Caves, etc. -Ion frigate 04:04, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
You need an additional ring of levitation to bullwhip underwater items if you are flying. Tjr 05:42, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
And also if you're not flying, I guess (unless water walking). The moral is not to throw that ring away. -- --Slandor 11:31, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
Dust Elbereths
So one of the mega-advantages of this would be that you can write a dust Elbereth and never fear smudging it, right? And use ranged weapons without moving yourself off of it? Slandor 11:33, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Nope. Engravings still erode while flying. Hell, I swear they were degrading faster when I was trying to write in the dust while wearing the amulet of flying. It's not really a disadvantage over levitation, because you can't engrave in the first place while levitating. And you can just put on a ring of levitation after writing in the dust while flying. -- Qazmlpok 11:42, June 14, 2010 (UTC)