# Talk:Exercise
Two Questions:
1. Do you get benefits of exercise when wearing Gloves of Strength or Dexterity?
2. What happens if one loses strength due to poisoning, then exercises it until it gains a point, then applies a unicorn horn?  To what level will it rise (if any)?

Contents

1 Two questions
2 Source inconsistency
3 Dead link
4 reset_attribute_clock in attrib.c
5 Methods of abuse missing

Two questions
1.) Does this look like Usenet?
2.) How about this? http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.roguelike.nethack/topics
Problem solved.&nbsp;:)

Source inconsistency
Two external sources are cited here mentioning exercise. One of them (http://www.helsinki.fi/~vviitane/spoilers/exercise) says the formula for stat point increases is 1-(stat)/20. The other (http://www.geocities.com/dcorbett42/nethack/exercise.htm says the formula is (18-(stat))/19. What gives? What is the actual formula?

Dead link
Nethack Workout Regimen by Boudewijn Wayers
reset_attribute_clock in attrib.c
reset_attribute_clock in attrib.c was removed in 3.6.0, and exerchk was heavily re-written.  Could use some updating by someone who understands the code better than me.  --Tone (talk) 02:37, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

Methods of abuse missing
This page refers to the 'attributes' page (which redirects to 'attribute') for a list of abuse methods, but there is no such list. Has it been deleted? --Hexcoder (talk) 22:31, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

The abuse, exercise, and other details were moved from Attribute into the individual attribute pages, such as Strength.  I have updated the wording on this page.  Cathartes (talk) 03:34, 12 January 2023 (UTC)