# Talk:Puddingbane
Magicbane
Does Magicbane make a good pacifist Puddingbane for the ascension run? What would you have to disenchant it to? --Tjr 15:43, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

I believe you'll need enchantment of -7. You need -3 to cancel out the athame's base damage, then it should be another -4 for the bonus damage - I'm assuming that the artifact bonus damage goes together with the base damage. There's also the 40% chance of 1d4 bonus damage, but I doubt that goes with the base damage. -- Qazmlpok 17:11, 7 July 2011 (UTC)