# Talk:Cthulhu
Not sure if this really belongs in the article, but it *is* possible to kill him permanently.  He is not fire resistant and cannot fly, so if he somehow ends up in lava, he will die and be gone forever; it seems the cloud-respawn thing is analogous to leaving a corpse-if he can't leave one, he is permanently destroyed.  Not that this really possible in a normal game, mind you; this was accomplished in wizard mode by wishing for figurines of him (obviously not allowed in any sort of normal game) and setting them in lava.  He "burned to a crisp" every time.  Unfortunately, since this isn't Dwarf Fortress, I don't think flooding his level with magma is really a viable option, but it is an interesting corner case.

I'd guess the usual Riders tricks should also work: Fill the level by reading the cursed Book of the Dead, kill the guy, and keep reading the book. At least some of the graveyard monsters are poison resistant. I don't know how viable this is in a real game, though. Tjr 02:18, August 13, 2010 (UTC)
What about purple worms (polyself or level 49 pets)? Tjr 02:20, August 13, 2010 (UTC)
Size gigantic, so engulfing is impossible. However..... he doesn't have a magic missile attack. Thus he shouldn't be magic resistant, and can be polymorphed by a genetic engineer. I don't know if 'Cannot be tamed' applies to post-polymorph forms or not, but even if it is impossible to tame him you should be able to stone his new form. That should be permanent and not result in him coming back to life.
While filling the level with lava is certainly impossible, unless Lethe changes the invocation ritual, it might be possible to take him with you upstairs and somehow drop him into the lava. Is there any method to drop a (non-pet) monster into lava? -- Qazmlpok 03:08, August 13, 2010 (UTC)
Can't lances move a monster back once space? I've never used them. Tjr 12:06, August 13, 2010 (UTC)
Jousting won't force monsters into water or lava (I think it may do extra damage instead).  As for the idea of polymorphing him, it does work.  You need to raise the level of your genetic engineer a fair bit (or just polyself into one), and it takes a some time to actually land a hit on him, but he will be polymorphed.  The resulting form actually is tameable, although stoning it is just as viable an option if you only want to get rid of him.
How unfortunate!  Why would they code an exception to take away one of the coolest things you could hope to do with your lance? Thefifthsetpin 04:09, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
As for ways to drop a monster into lava, other than pets or displacer beasts, I don't think it's possible.  Even filling the level with lava didn't seem to kill him, since for some reason I was still detecting his psychic blasts. -Ion frigate 22:48, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

will attacking him as a green slime turn him into green slime? - Ndwolfwood 07:04, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Does canceling it have any effect? Acid blobs are immune to poison.  If you fill the room up with them will Cthullu eventually lose his ablity to reform? Ndwolfwood 07:12, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

To answer your questions:
Turning him to slime: Yes it works, but good luck hitting him.  Even with a +20 ring of increase accuracy it took me several tries.  Much better an option is to turn into a genetic engineer and polymorph him, since they are at least normal speed and can use weapons and armor.
Canceling him: You never could.  His MR and base level are too high - even a level 30 character has no chance of canceling him.
Filling the level up with acid blobs: It crashes the game, although closing and reloading, he was no longer present.  Probably not a good idea, since I don't know if that'll work every time. -Ion frigate 14:03, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
how did you get a +20 ring of accuracy?  DId you mean you have a +20 ecause you eat the rings as a mettalivore? I thought that +7was the most it got -Ndwolfwood 01:37, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Wizard mode, of course. -- Qazmlpok 01:55, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Will Magicbane cancel him? IIRC it's not subject to monster MR. --Tjr 00:40, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
It is - it just calls cancel_monst in zap.c, which checks MR.  I think the chance of attempting to cancel a monster isn't affected by MR, but I know I see things like liches resist the cancellation effect all the time. -Ion frigate 17:53, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

So I just arrived in Moloch's Sanctum.  He should be in here but I am unable to find him through telepathy.  What is the deal?Ndwolfwood (talk) 10:42, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
Cthullu is represented as a purple h like a mind flayer.  This article has him with the demon symbol. I don't know if that is just a Unnethack thing or not.  If it is not could someone change it.
Please see here http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg441/scaled.php?server=441&amp;filename=cthullu.png&amp;res=landingNdwolfwood (talk) 10:59, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Definitely an UnNetHack thing; you can spawn him in wizard mode in SLASH'EM, and he's a &amp; there.   Also that picture doesn't load; I can certainly believe that he would be a purple h, since he is rather like a mind flayer.  It does seem a little weird though, since generally h is reserved for *small* humanoids (like dwarves). -Ion frigate (talk) 14:09, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
Let me try and post that picture one more time
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg441/scaled.php?server=441&amp;filename=cthullu.png&amp;res=landing
Ndwolfwood 17:02, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
can you see it now?Ndwolfwood 17:03, 16 June 2012 (UTC)