# Talk:Minotaur
I think Minotaurs have Intrinsic Telepathy too. I polymorphed into one (ring of poly control for the win) and gained it somehow, but lost it again when I changed back. Should this be noted? --206.75.108.8 05:22, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

You can still meet them anywhere
Well, even if they're never "randomly generated," one of them sure ate my lunch in the Gnomish Mines.  Polymorph trap, I guess.  You can run into them anywhere, not just in mazes.  And they hurt!

found one on Dlvl 7
Never random my ass. And what is one doing on Dlvl7? It's not fun to die like that.

Before making blanket statements - was it a bones level? Maybe it was a defeated player's pet. Maybe it was created from a polymorph trap... -- Kalon 04:21, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Not a polymorph trap on Dlvl 7, but it could be any of the others, or an intelligent monster which was generated with or found a wand/potion of polymorph.  Or it could have been some sort of shapeshifter.  -- Marcmagus 05:29, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Monsters can't poly themselves to a much higher-level creature, so the wand/potion is unlikely or impossible. 86.136.110.44 00:43, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
Those restrictions apply only when the monster uses a wand or potion of polymorph on itself. Shapeshifters can certainly become minotaurs. --Tjr (talk) 09:31, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
Invisible minotaur on Dlvl 5
Lvl 10 barbarian (130hp) on level 5, AC 0 (had cleared out the mines) and had just walked out of a shop. It cleaned my clock in two turns. Didn't
even know what it was until I saw my headstone. --Mannc (talk) 07:19, 25 March 2014 (UTC)