# Talk:Helm of opposite alignment
So, are lawfuls-turned-chaotic not penalized for murder? Aeronflux 00:12, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Behavior is always rewarded or penalized based on your current alignment. As long as you're Chaotic at the moment you commit murder, you aren't punished. --Auraseer 03:57, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
multiconduct benefits
steal as a chaotic and repay as a lawful to gain alignment record. Relevant to atheist pacifist.
dip Excalibur for pets
sanctuary in an originally cross-aligned temple. Though it's not so clear why that is good.
dig up graves as a born non-lawful. Relevant to atheist pacifists, who have a hard time raising alignment.
the mines are easier for lawul non-pacifists because so many monsters are peaceful. But for pacifists, pets will still deplete their HP on peacefuls.
Placed here because I wasn't sure this article's readership is the right target audience. --Tjr (talk) 22:24, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Helm alignment for neutral characters
do_wear.c function Helmet_on(): uchangealign((u.ualign.type&nbsp;!= A_NEUTRAL)&nbsp;? -u.ualign.type&nbsp;: (uarmh-&gt;o_id&nbsp;% 2)&nbsp;? A_CHAOTIC&nbsp;: A_LAWFUL, 1);
"o_id" is the internal ID number of the item, and if I'm not mistaken a newly generated item will always have an ID number that is 1 higher than the last one generated, so by quickly wishing for two helms in succession a neutral character will be almost guaranteed to have both a "lawful" and a "chaotic" helmet. --Bluescreenofdeath (talk) 13:49, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Just checked with a debugger, and yeah. As long as nothing else in generated in between (Which can always happen due to monster generation, it'll just be rare), two consecutive wishes will work. -- Qazmlpok (talk) 14:01, 25 January 2016 (UTC)