<text>  CNNThings got testy on CNN Tonight when conservative commentator Ben Ferguson charged that rappers like Trinidad James are profiting off the n-word. Ill be honest with you, Ferguson told James on Monday night. I think you know that we should probably get rid of the n-word, but in reality, I think many rappers are afraid they will lose out on money and sales and street cred if they dont stop using the word. The two were part of a panel discussion about who can say the n-word. The panel also included CNN commentator Marc Lamont Hill. Im making money off of doing music and being creative, sir, James responded. Im not making money just because I use the n-word. Nobody goes to buy an album because its full of the n-word. To which Ferguson responded: Trinidad, you wouldnt be on this show tonight if it wasnt for using the n-word in your rap music. Lets be honest. Trinidad James is the rapper whose hit song, All Gold Everything, is heard playing in the background as the house mother of the University of Oklahoma Sigma Alpha Epsilon house -- known as Mom B. -- was caught on a Vine video repeating the n-word seven times on camera. The woman, Beauton Gilbow, was bombarded with claims that shes just as racist as the fraternity members who were caught singing a racist song on a bus earlier this month. In a previous interview with CNN, James said he was willing to give the house mom a pass -- though he said he didnt condone her use of the word. But when Ferguson said Monday the rapper was only on the show for his use of the word, the third panelist -- Hill -- quickly jumped in. He wouldnt be on the show if a white woman hadnt said the n-word on a tape, he said. White people have been saying the n-word long before Trinidad was born. Watch the full exchange above. 