<text>  Sam Warburton is set to captain Wales for a record 34th time in the RBS 6 Nations showdown against Ireland in Cardiff on Saturday. Nik Simon talks to Warburton and Wales wing legend Shane Williams about the game which could decide the Six Nations Championship. Nik Simon: Youll become Waless most-capped captain on Saturday. Whats the secret? Sam Warburton: I take it with a pinch of salt because there are more games now than 30 years ago. Warren Gatland put his faith in me when I was quite young and hes stuck with me. Before I took up the role, some people said If someones out of line, then you have to give it to them. Rather than the Roy Keane approach, and as a Spurs fan, I like to compare myself to Ledley King. Sportsmails Nik Simon speaks to Wales captain Sam Warburton and former Test winger Shane Williams . Warburton left is set to captain Wales for a record 34th time against Ireland in Cardiff on Saturday . Former Wales and Lions winger Williams believes his Warburtons side are still in the running for the title . Simon: Ryan Jones previously held the record, how do the two compare? Shane Williams: To be captain, you have to be well liked by the players. Warburton came in at the latter stage of my career and was much younger than me, so it was a little strange to have him as captain. But he impressed me straight away and, like Ryan, he trained hard and played hard. Simon: Wales are still in the running for the championship despite losing to England in round one. Are there shades of 2013? Warburton: Its going that way. Our experience in 2013 has given us the belief that we can do it. It was tough then because all the Wales teams previously had won a Grand Slam. Ryan sat us down and gave us the belief that we needed. Weve had our one lifeline but weve got the motivation that its still possible. Williams: Fate is always in your hands with the Six Nations, thats what makes it special. Its an open championship. Ireland are favourites to win in Cardiff but you cant write anyone off one result can change everything. Simon: Jonathan Sexton ran the show against England. How much of a threat is he? Warburton: If Im being honest, I didnt see the game live because I was watching Tottenham v Chelsea in the Capital One Cup final. I flicked back and forth to see the rugby score. But Johnny is a massive part of the Irish team. His attention to detail impressed me on the Lions tour and he knew every move so intricately. He deserves to be known as one of the best players in the world. Ryan Jones centre previously held the record for Waless most-capped captain . Simon: How do you defend against Sexton and Conor Murrays kicking game? Williams: The game is changing and theres a massive focus on rugby league style kicks. When I saw the state of Tommy Bowe at the end last week, he had chased a lot of kicks and was very tired. It helps being six-foot plus when youre taking high balls. Dan Biggar is one of the best in the world at kicking the ball in the air, running 40 yards, and catching it. It sounds easy but its such a big part of the game now. Simon: Who would you select in the Welsh back-three? Williams: Defensively, Leigh Halfpenny is the best full back in the world. George North is my first-choice winger because hes such a talented footballer. On the other wing I would keep Liam Williams, whos the form player in Wales. Scott Baldwin and Luke Charteris were both very good in the pack against France especially with the 100 per cent lineout and I wouldnt make any changes for the weekend... if it isnt broken dont fix it! Fly half Jonathan Sexton right has been superb for Ireland during this yearss tournament . Simon: Can the Welsh half-backs match the Irish? Williams: Ive been very impressed with Biggar and Rhys Webb. Theyve made those positions theirs at the moment and they are able to take pressure off each other through their time management and kicking games. It helps that theyve been together at Ospreys and they will have to be on top of their game against Murray and Sexton, because theyre the worlds in-form combination. Simon: England were blitzed at the breakdown in Dublin, are you putting extra focus on that area? Warburton: Out of all the Six Nations teams Ive played against, Ireland have been the most effective at the breakdown. Ive not been rewarded as much at the breakdown as I was last year. I havent made as many turnovers as I would have liked. The post-tackle stuff is always an add-on after training and Shaun Edwards always barks at us when were doing it. Its key to our game plan. Simon: Ireland have lost just twice in Cardiff in 32 years, why are they so successful? Williams: In the nicest possible way, they take an arrogant approach and expect to win every game. Theyve had players like Paul OConnell, Brian ODriscoll and Ronan OGara, who have been able to win these kind of games. They have belief and mental toughness. When theyre playing well, they build up confidence and are a very tough team to stop. Wales head coach Warren Gatland centre will be pitting his wits against fellow Kiwi Joe Schmidt this week . Simon: Whats the key to countering that record? Warburton: Like every international match, there are three areas: set piece, breakdown, kicking game. If you can come out on top in two of those three then thats probably going to be the key. I think the breakdown and the kicking game will be the two key areas against Ireland. Were back at our own little nest in the Vale and were back at home. After two wins, confidence is high. Simon: Warren Gatland vs Joe Schmidt will be an interesting coaching battle how do the two Kiwis compare? Williams: They both stick to the game plan they want to play. Schmidt uses the players as a tool to work out how Ireland are going to play, rather than trying to fit them into a certain game-plan. Warren Gatland is very similar. Warrens got a great way with people. He gets the best out of his players by taking the mick out of them. I used to come off the field and, with a glint in his eye, he would say oh you were rubbish today!. He loves the wind-up and he loves getting his players going. Schmidt is very straight down the line. He says it as it is and gets the best out of his players by being honest. Theyre different personalities but theyre both hugely successful. Wales winger George North makes a strong carry during his sides victory against France in Paris . Simon: Wales are still in the running... How much of a World Cup confidence boost would it be to win the Six Nations? Warburton: I dont think the Six Nations will have much bearing on the World Cup. In 2011 that wasnt the case. The Six Nations didnt reflect our World Cup campaign. Last years autumn campaign finished well for us but that didnt transfer into the first game against England. I dont think theres much of a trend with Wales. The most important period will be the three months were together in the summer. Well treat that like a pre-season. Sam Warburton and Shane Williams are Ambassadors for GUINNESS, Official Partner of Welsh Rugby. To view GUINNESS Made of More rugby campaign, celebrating the Integrity and character of heroes from the game, visit 