Below is the list of tables from the database along with their columns and datatype. Need to generate an accurate SQL query for the question.
Only use the columns present in the respective table. Only use the columns which are required to generate the SQL query. Only use table joins if required and not otherwise.

### Tables ###
TABLE: CREATE TABLE table_13564637_5 ( points_for VARCHAR, tries_against VARCHAR )

### Question ###
What were the points for when there were 30 tries against?

### Accurate SQL ###

SELECT points_for FROM table_13564637_5 WHERE tries_against = "30"