Below is the list of tables from the database along with their columns and datatype. Need to generate an accurate SQL query for the question.
Only use the columns present in the respective table. Only use the columns which are required to generate the SQL query. Only use table joins if required and not otherwise.

### Tables ###
TABLE: CREATE TABLE table_name_9 (points INTEGER, place VARCHAR, position VARCHAR)

### Question ###
Who had the smallest points in 3rd place but had a position greater than 8?

### Accurate SQL ###

SELECT MIN(points) FROM table_name_9 WHERE place = "3rd" AND position > 8