Below is the list of tables from the database along with their columns and datatype. Need to generate an accurate SQL query for the question.
Only use the columns present in the respective table. Only use the columns which are required to generate the SQL query. Only use table joins if required and not otherwise.

### Tables ###
TABLE: CREATE TABLE table_name_61 (draws VARCHAR, losses VARCHAR, points VARCHAR)

### Question ###
What is the number of draws for the team with more than 8 losses and 13 points?

### Accurate SQL ###

SELECT draws FROM table_name_61 WHERE losses > 8 AND points = 13