Below is the list of tables from the database along with their columns and datatype. Need to generate an accurate SQL query for the question.
Only use the columns present in the respective table. Only use the columns which are required to generate the SQL query. Only use table joins if required and not otherwise.

### Tables ###
TABLE: CREATE TABLE table_17505751_5 ( Champions VARCHAR, league VARCHAR, position VARCHAR )

### Question ###
when the position is forward and the league is 5 what number is the Champion league

### Accurate SQL ###

SELECT COUNT(Champions) AS league FROM table_17505751_5 WHERE league = 5 AND position = "Forward"