My friends like it because of Jonathan's painfilled voice. And cool riffs. But for me........no way. If you want pain and agony, Buy the Deftones or The Cure. These guys are so faked and commersialised, pretending to be so cool, i almost sick up. Their music has no possible meaning, since the don't put any effort at all making a new record. (What did it take? A month...two?) The embarresing is that kids buy their cool attitude. OK, their music CAN be listened to but it doesn't touch you, in any way!