This is one of the worst pieces of outerware I have ever seen. It has *no* redeeming features.It is called a 'down jacket' but this is a misnomer: a 'down jacket' is a Jacket that warms the wearer with a down filling, this is a jacket which contains down but only in a purely technical sense. There's a big difference. I took it out of the box, put it on indoors, in a heated room and had to wait to notice any warming effect. You'd be better off with with two sweaters and a nylon windbreaker. It is thin, cheap, and chintzy and you honestly don't want it.You have this information from someone who has had this garment in his hands and on his back. I am returning it ASAP.