looking back on half the reviews, i totally dont agree with them being a typical rock band. they incorporate many other instruments in their songs that help to differentiate them from other bands. ill agree that a lot of the songs are sappy, but they have really good beats. they dont tend to use the same beats like other bands *cough*blink-182*cough* and you can relate to them. i dont get these people who are like their not true rock and just posers. shut up, you're probably poseurs yourself.