I bought these plates as an alternative to my butlers pantry salad plates for a wedding shower. The plates are very beautiful, with a raised edge. They are great on their own, but do NOT work for a salad plate. They are too large to fit on the butlers pantry plates. The raised edge is also too large to fit in my dishwasher plate rack, so they have to be hand washed. I am going to keep them because they are unique and I ended up using as serving pieces. They are very pretty, and I do love the collection. Unfortunately they are not made just a bit smaller so they can actually be used as an accent plate.