I had heard from a lot of people that the album [was bad]. I listened to a couple songs from my friends cd and i thought it was pretty good, so i went and got it. I've listend to the whole thing and i have to say that i like it. It's defenitley not what i expected. There is no solos by kirk, which was suprising.Its a brutal metal album, but a good one that will keep you listening with a 75 min album with songs no shorter then 5 min. I'd say pick it up if you want a good album to listen to.