Probably more like a 2 1/2 if that was an option. I pretty much agree with the last reviewer, although I am into a lot of countryish stuff too (but not so much the way these guys do it though). The best moments are the instrumentals from the first record; they are definitely the most Beefheartish thing these guys have in them. The vocal stuff is on the order of The Band and Little Feat, only the songwriting is no where near as strong as those groups.The second album was even sort of overproduced. All in all this is pretty much a confused mishmosh of progressive musicians that are unsure of what they want to do and in desperate need of some guidance. Not much that is memorable here. If you're expecting Beefheart-esque art rock you'll be thoroughly disappointed. At least I didn't have to buy this to find out what it was like;a friend lent me his vinyl copies.