I decided to replace my 3 year-old Panosonic breadmaker with one featuring a horizontal pan. Based on Consumer Reports, etc. I purchased the Zojiruski BBCC-V20. What a big mistake! The loaves always stick to the pan because they are too brown on the bottom while they are too pale on the top. Adjusting the crust color doesn't help. The machine is very loud while operating, and includes an "add ingredients" beeping sequence that is entirely too long and very annoying. I'm sending the Zojirushi back and ordering replacement parts for my worn out Panosonic.