ITs a pretty good solid cd, i saw them when they were touring with godsmack and saw them again when they were tourin with Drowning pool. there pretty good live but there still new and they need to get more expreiced but i recommed it. Alot of people say that its post grundge and blah blah blah. Well its not quite but still a good album i reccomed it if you like Godsmack or Alice in CHains.