I put 40 dvds on this thing, rip my cds and create play lists all within a few hours. the usb 2 just blows away the ipod slow connection it's not even funny. The only thing the ipods got for it is the easy controls but very short on features. One thing I really like is the porn files/ videos that I dont want my kids to see, just hide it and lock it. And the short cut button is just so great to have, need more buttons like this. Ipods need to learn how to do that. When the lights is out on the Ipod, you cannot see any thing, not this Zen, it's dim but u can still make out the screen. Those are the things that I have not seen anyone mention. Anyway, these things are selling like hot cakes, look for it at 6 diffent stores before I found the last one at bestbuy...it's so good I bought some stocks for CREAF too, at 52 weeks low. Already made enough to pay for itself.