Ok I got these tools through my school book store, and they seemed pretty nice. In defence of these tools I do like the U gouge and i havn't yet had problems with the strait edged ones. BUT...The v gouge is terrible! It comes with a terrible angle for cutting ( your hand has to be pretty much verticle) and while reshaping and sharpening it just started to crumble away! Now I know this was not something I did because I had my teacher ( college professor/Practicing print maker) sharpen them for me! She said the temper on the steel must be bad. I have also noticed what seems to be cracks or deep scratches along the sides of the steel on my u gouge and v gouge. I think this may be part of the reason my v gouge crumbled away to uselessnes. The u gouge is still hanging in there but i don't know how long that will last. So now you have been warned!