I've bought this item and it is true what they say,"you get what you paid for" It came a little rusted and it had this lubricant all over, I didn't want to use it from the the start so I washed it twice, it corroded, try to clean it as best as i could and tried to use it, the meat kept getting jammed the little that came out had black things due to the corrosion, so if I used anything It was probably the plastic accessories that came for the sausage stuffing, Now to return it I'll probably have to pay for S&H, forget it! I'll Probably end up trashing it.