I've seen and heard the hype about these guys and i just don't get it.They came this past year to do a live show(which i thought was dull and repititous) here to Baltimore so i thought i would check out they're new CD to see if they were any better on it.They have some talent but i actually thought they were quite rude to various member's of the crowd.That said this music is just plain boring,kinda heavy at times but lacks any real passion or real aggression.So people can play off time,who care's,play something everyone can get into,and move around to.I thought the CD would be better but i was really disappointed.Hopefully no more of these bands come from WV anyways.