Don't get me wrong. It's not that i don't like hardcore bands or music that is made with passion, but it's just that.this band is continually supported by people claiming that it is poetic and passionately expressive, but in actuality it is just 9 people getting together and making a lot of noise while someon screams about how everyone hates them and how terrible people in the world today are. This id the kin=d of thing that i find disgusting and am shocked that people actually buy it.I would encourage you to buy a cd by The Mars Volta or by At the Drive in if you want to hear actually strongly passionate music and something by opeth if you want to hear actually good heavy music.this band is just the worst in the history of the world