I would like to mential, also, that without that terribly uncomfortable and useless slab of foam in the middle the "gel" material is very comfortable. The problem with taking it out and using it is that they just don't put enough of it in. They would need at least 2 x and maybe even 3 x as much of that material. I had to fold it in half to double the thickness in order to be comfortable. I must say that if this company took out that crappy foam insert and put more gel in this would be the most comfortable pillow I've ever had and would earn 5 stars. I hope LCM home reads this cos I would definitely buy it.