im not just talking about music, this band is the worst thing in the world. they are unbelievably uncreative, and the lead singer sounds like hes having an asma attack. this band puts u in a depressed boring mood, but not like nirvana, this is in a bad way. they are quite possibly horrible songwriters. they copy nirvanas every chord, but change it a little, which makes their songs that horrible. id rather look at that little boys ass on the cover, than actually take the cd out and listen to it. do not waste your money. hell, dont even waste space on your hard drive downloading these guys. they make linkin park seem average. i cant wait until the band gets in a plane accident or something. i honestly dont know how anyone could enjoy listening to these guys. i think im gonna go listen to some limp biskit to get "she hates me" out of my head.