ANN FROM OREGONWE HAVE USED THE B&D; SPACEMAKER SINCE THEY FIRST MADE THEM,AND THO THEY HAD SOME MINOR FLAWS,THEY GAVE US GOOD SERVICE.....THIS IS NO LONGER TRUE SINCE WE PURCHASED THE THERMAL CARAFE MODEL.....IT IS A TOTAL PIECE OF JUNK,AND WAS DESIGNED BY SOME ABORIGINE WHO PROBABLY NEVER MADE A CUP OF COFFEE.....THE LED DISPLAY IS SO BAD YOU NEED A MAGNIFYING CLASS JUST TO SEE IF IT IS TURNED ON.....IT WILL NOT KEEP THE COFFEE WARM.....THE LID IF NOT PUT ON PERFECTLY WILL BIND,AND YOU CAN NOT GET IT TO GO ONE WAY OR THE OTHER....THE COFFEE POURS SO SLOWLY THAT YOU HAVE TO SHAVE AGAIN BY THE TIME YOU POUR TWO CUPS.....IF YOU TAKE THE LID OFF TO POUR,IT GOES ALL OVER THE COUNTER,WHILE THE LID DRIPS ITS CONDENSATE ALL OVER YOUR SLIPPERS.....I COULD GO ON,BUT MY HUBBY IS WAITING FOR ME, WE ARE TAKING IT BACK FOR A REFUND....NO MORE BLACK AND DECKER PRODUCTS FOR US.....