I liked these shorts when I originally got them but after one washing the stitching on one of the bottom hems began unraveling and came entirely out. Now I'm just waiting for the material to fray. This is not the quality that I have known Russell for in the past and these are not cheap shorts. I guess that's what happens when you move manufacturing overseas (these were made in El Salvador). Russell used to have manufacturing in Alabama with fantastic quality. I certainly won't go out of my way to purchase Russell in the future.