I liked the style and apparent toughness of the jeans, but they were wayyyyy too baggy on me, despite the 33" waist and 30" length fitting properly. I'm 5'-8" and 160lbs, so I'm skinny, but not overly so. These pants are only appropriate for thicker people. I returned these and found the Wrangler Classic Fit and Regular Fit to fit properly, but not so with any of their carpentry pants. Disappointing.