I'm just gonna say it... these guys ...I don't listen to them that much, but I've definently heard enough of their music to come to the conclusion that they are just another cliched "rock" band. The guys basically define mainstream; it's all here: predictable lyrics, basic riffs and stupid MTV music videos. These songs are boring as hell; they are all formulatic, predictable, and simple cliche. Take "Always" for example; this is seriously one of the worst "rock" songs I have heard in a LONG time. Every time I see the stupid video on MTV, I can't stop watching it because it litterally ... so much. Anyway, don't buy into this ... and go pick up a copy of Queens of the Stone Age, Rancid, Rage Against the Machine, etc.