I was looking for old school nova 45 s (old school radio shack head phones) . I wanted them because they were nice and load , you could wear them around your neck and hear. so I wear them at work (unload U.P.S) i need to hear whats going on... they didnt go as load as hoped, but they sound great better than my sony studio mon. mdr-v150. I think cassette player had more output than mp3 player's, that is why they are not as load as i remembered. over all review they sound great,but feel a little cheap to the touch.