Dude check it out, first off the drummer is the high pitched evil sounding singer and the growls come from the guitarist.But these guys are bad as F^%$ one of the best live bands i've ever seen! If your into crusty or grindcore these dudes are the best there ever was. PERIOD. also check out Benumb, No less, Ape Face,El Dopa, His Hero Is Gone, Hellnation, Skaven, Phobia, Spazz, Agents of Satan, or Capitalist Casualties