man...I don't know what this dude is talking about. If you're not into AHC...which some peeps r not, that's your perogative (spell?).But you lose all cred with me when you prop Coal Chamber against them. Damn dude...couldn't you at least throw some angry new sh#*T up like Mnemic or something. CC never did anything NEARLY as good as either AHC cd's. I mean ...Dez even knew CC sucked..that's why he split for DevilDriver. I waited for this cd anxiously and it's damn good. I personally liked "War" better... but this new one is still better than most of the other so-called heavy stuff out there. Buy it...you'll be glad you did.